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Magazine Interview with Jimmy McGovern
The
creator of TV's Cracker who stirred controversy with his
dramatisation of the Hillsborough disaster last year, is doing
what he does best: ruffling more feathers. Jimmy McGovern is
thoughtful, softly spoken and scrupulously polite. His hands
tremble as he lights a cigarette, and, as if in sympathy, his
voice falters and stammers as he struggles to find certain
words. He doesn't joke and rarely raises his voice. He doesn't
even swear much. Which is a bit of a surprise from the man who
began his TV career penning loudmouthed sermons for Bobby Grant,
the unreconstructed proletarian of Brookside, and the man who
injected the spleen into the soul of Fitz, the cynical,
frighteningly erudite psychologist of Cracker. Particularly as
McGovern admits that most of his work is autobiographical. But
Jimmy McGovern has always enjoyed getting his professional hands
dirty. Since the early 80's, when he was invited by Phil Redmond
to join the writing team of the newest channel's fledgling soap
opera, he's inflamed debate on issues such as rape, child abuse,
racism, injustice, drug addiction and homosexuality in the
Catholic church. He's also courted controversy, most recently
with his polemical drama about the 1989 Hillsborough football
disaster in which 95 Liverpool fans were crushed to death, and
for which he holds the police directly responsible. (Since the
programme was shown last year, the government has set up an
enquiry into the events.)
If
it's taboo, then McGovern will dig it up, dissect it and hurl
the pieces into the nation's sitting rooms. But what really
interests him, and makes him interesting to the millions who
lapped up Hearts and Minds, Cracker, Priest and Hillsborough is
moral conflict and all the messy human stuff - jealousy,
betrayal, hypocrisy, lust, deception, guilt - that polite
society prefers not to discuss. Not that you'd know what goes on
in McGovern's head from listening to him. As a young hothead he
supported Militant and when he was starting out as a writer,
used to spar with anyone who wanted to change his scripts. But
there's little of that fight in his talk now - evidently he
prefers to bury his passions in his work. "I am," he
says with a wry grin, "a pussycat." "If you're
going to write," he adds, in a soft scouse accent,
"you should write the truth as you see it. What I write is
not everybody's cup of tea, but it's my truth. I know about
racism, for example, because I've been there, I've felt it in
the past. And if I've felt some of those things, then millions
of people have. I try to write about people, warts and
all." Besides, he adds, "If you savour all the
emotions you've had in you're life, you can transfer them into
strange situations."
And all his life, McGovern has done just that. Filed those
unsettling emotions away and turned them into true-grit TV. He
was born in 1949, the fifth of nine children, to Catholic
working-class parents in Liverpool. Although he was bright, he
didn't speak until he was eight or nine, except by way of noises
that confounded everybody but his brother Joey. "I still
don't know why that was," he says, thoughtful, though he
has been asked the question many times. "I guess I was just
in a world of my own." Nonetheless, he passed the 11-plus,
and, clever Catholic boy that he was, won a scholarship to a
Jesuit grammar school, an experience he describes, a hard note
drawing into his voice, as "bloody awful. I had a stammer.
I was the only poor kid there. And they didn't understand
poverty." Because of that, he says, he suffered numerous
injustices, and, as it turned out, found plenty of raw material
that would come in handy later. So was it the anger he felt that
motivated him to write? "It was undoubtedly what helped me
to speak at one time. If I felt anger and passion, I could cut
through my stammer. But I think every writer has to have
something they get hot under the collar about. I don't think I'm
special in that." He left school at 16 and for the next
decade did a string of menial jobs.
By
23 he was married, with 3 children (two boys and a girl),
"a loss of faith" in some of the "isms" he'd
taken for granted and a gambling problem. "Basically I lost
more money than I could afford to lose. And that made me a
serious gambler," he explains. Echoes of Fitz? "Yeah,
I understand obsession and emptiness." He concedes that he
must have been difficult to live with, but says of his wife
Elaine, "She's always known where I'm at. We've grown
together. We've had our rows, like, but nothing too
intense." By the time he was pushing 30, McGovern was bored
and in search of a calling. In 1979 he trained to be a teacher.
At first he was heady with idealism but three years later (much
like the teacher in Hearts and Minds), he packed it in.
"When it comes to education, I'd best be described as a
Thatcherite," he says, a flicker of fire in his eyes.
"I've seen so many bone-idle, ineffective teachers. And
they fail our kids." How could he throw in the towel so
easily when he had three children of his own to support?
"I'd already started working for Brookside a bit by then. I
could never have a time when I wasn't earning." It was his
success as a writer that kept McGovern on the straight and
narrow. These days he lives with Eileen in a suburb of Liverpool
and bad behaviour is confined to the occasional lost evening in
the pub. "It sounds corny," he says, "but the big
secret if you gamble or drink too much is to fill the void, to
find something to fill whatever it is in there that makes you do
the things you shouldn't be doing. For me that was first of all
education, then teaching, then writing."
His
new drama, The Lakes, a rites of passage story set in the Lake
District, mines yet another seam of the McGovern autobiography.
When he was 19, he went to work in a hotel in the Lake District,
where, incidentally, he met Elaine. With its themes of guilt,
the attempt to shift blame and hypocrisy, The Lakes covers
familiar McGovern territory. But it's also about the tension
between urban and rural communities - very 1997 - and its
already got tongues wagging. The Friends of the Lakes, a small
conservation pressure group, has slammed the series, sight
unseen, saying that it presents a negative image of the area.
McGovern is dismissive. On some things he still takes a very
clear line. "My in-laws are there, so I've got to know the
area very well," he explains. "The ordinary working
people there depend on tourism, but the people with power and
wealth despise the tourists. They don't like the urban baggage
that the tourists and the seasonal workers bring. It's about an
insular community." Talking of which, how does he feel
about Catholicism now? "I can't imagine writing a script
that doesn't have a Catholic element," he says. "It's
the moment of introspection I've always found valuable, and the
guilt. As a source of material it's great." What about his
personal faith? "By history, culture and tradition I'm
still a Catholic. If you use it in times of need it seems more
real than to simply go by rote. And if anyone dare criticise me
for being a part-time Catholic, I'd say, I have every right to
use and abuse the Catholic faith, because it used and abused me
as a child. And if," he adds, quietly challenging, "it
offers a good education system for my kids [all three of whom
went to Catholic schools], I'll use it then. In the end, all
good faith is about sharing a common humanity." And, he
might have added, pretty good TV too
The
Unofficial Guide To Cracker 1999-2006
(http://www.crackertv.co.uk)
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